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    Hands You Want to Play.... But Shouldn't - by Phil Gordon Good Read!

    I was going to post the link to this great article by Phil Gordon, but I was informed it may have some type of tracking to it.. so I'll just paste it in. I've shared this on a few other forums and have had some good responses. Tell me what you think?

    Hands You Want To Play … But Shouldn't
    Phil Gordon
    Feb 22nd, 2026

    Even the best poker players in the world make mistakes, and when these mistakes are not corrected, they can develop into "leaks" that can easily sink your game. There are two leaks in particular that I see all the time with regard to Hold 'em starting hands that people play but would be better off folding.

    The first of these two leaks involves playing easily dominated hands. Domination in Texas Hold 'em is death, so you must make an effort to fold potentially dominated hands pre-flop if another player has voluntarily entered the pot.

    This concept spins off of David Sklansky's "Gap Principle", which essentially says that the range of hands you're willing to raise with should be wider than the range of hands you're willing to call with.

    For instance, if everyone folds to me and I have K-Q off-suit on the button, I'm going to raise. It's likely the best hand, and I give myself a chance to steal the blinds. However, if a middle position player raises before the flop, I'm going to throw that K-Q away quickly. That K-Q is very easily dominated by the hands my opponent is likely to raise with in middle position, such as A-K, pocket Kings, pocket Aces, pocket Queens, and A-Q. These are hands that K-Q will have a very difficult time beating, and if we both flop a pair, I could be in severe trouble and lose my entire stack.

    To further illustrate this point, here's a mathematical look at why a theoretically powerful hand, if dominated, is worse than playing random rags. Say my opponent raises in first position with A-K and it folds around to me on the button with 7-2 off-suit, the worst hand in poker. If I call there, I'm about a 65-35 underdog.

    Now let's say I have A-Q on the button facing that same raise from A-K. Now my hand is about a 75-25 underdog, which is significantly worse than if I had 7-2.

    It's not easy to fold A-Q to a single raise pre-flop, but if the raise is coming from early position and you have reason to believe your opponent has a premium hand, A-Q could easily be dominated. More to the point, that next tier of starting hands—K-Q, Q-J, Q-10, K-10, K-J—those are hands you should just throw away if your opponent opens the pot for a raise.

    The other leak involving starting hands that I see frequently is overvaluing suited hands. I see players with A-5 suited or 8-7 suited and they play the hands because they think they might flop a flush. In reality, when you're suited you will only flop a flush about one out of 121 times. That's about 0.84 percent of the time. It does not happen very often. And even when it does happen, you're not likely to win a big pot.

    If you take a hand like A-5 suited and compare it to A-5 off-suit, in reality, against the range of hands your opponent might be playing, it only adds about two to three percent to your expectation of making the best hand.

    So don't be fooled by being suited. Just because the hand is suited does not mean that it is playable. The ranks of the cards are much more important than whether or not your hand is suited.

    When making your pre-flop decisions, if you can resist the urge to play hands that are likely dominated and resist the urge to play mediocre suited cards, I think you'll find yourself playing a more profitable brand of poker in the long run.

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    Re: Hands You Want to Play.... But Shouldn't - by Phil Gordon Good Read!

    great read thanks dats .....i think that it will be usefull for my game and ill use this in my starting hands in my ps tourn kuming up thanks again wish me luck

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    Re: Hands You Want to Play.... But Shouldn't - by Phil Gordon Good Read!

    This is a very good article and sound advice. I hope I can follow it lol;

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    Re: Hands You Want to Play.... But Shouldn't - by Phil Gordon Good Read!

    Thanks for the posting here of this dats. good info. :wave

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    Re: Hands You Want to Play.... But Shouldn't - by Phil Gordon Good Read!

    thanks for this information will be copying this post and add this to my poker tutorial compilation weeeeee would be great if there could have been a lot more tips posted


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    Re: Hands You Want to Play.... But Shouldn't - by Phil Gordon Good Read!

    It sounds like good advice and the math sounds correct, but I don't see many people folding AQ or KQ preflop. Maybe the pro's do it plenty and it's just not shown on TV. I also think in online play less than 1% of players would toss double face hole cards preflop. It's tough, especially in freerolls and micro-stakes, because if someone raises in early position it doesn't necessarily mean they have AK. In fact, I'd say they're more likely to have something like A5 because it seems like there are a lot of players who think having ANY ace = the nuts.

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    Re: Hands You Want to Play.... But Shouldn't - by Phil Gordon Good Read!

    [quote author=TopJimmy99 link=topic=msg5564#msg5564 date=1301252657]
    It sounds like good advice and the math sounds correct, but I don't see many people folding AQ or KQ preflop. Maybe the pro's do it plenty and it's just not shown on TV. I also think in online play less than 1% of players would toss double face hole cards preflop. It's tough, especially in freerolls and micro-stakes, because if someone raises in early position it doesn't necessarily mean they have AK. In fact, I'd say they're more likely to have something like A5 because it seems like there are a lot of players who think having ANY ace = the nuts.
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    An therein lies the rub. . .you try to play according to sound poker wisdom, advice, learning, etc., but your opponents aren't -- whether because they don't know how, have a different style, or play as such intentionally. So, while Phil's points are good, sound advice you can't use it as gospel because you are not playing the same level of players that he is. . .
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    Re: Hands You Want to Play.... But Shouldn't - by Phil Gordon Good Read!

    very nice read there dats thanks for posting it buddy

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    Re: Hands You Want to Play.... But Shouldn't - by Phil Gordon Good Read!

    yeah its good article mate i hope everyone reads it (I still play AQ and K 10 early pos)

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    Re: Hands You Want to Play.... But Shouldn't - by Phil Gordon Good Read!

    [quote author=rockape link=topic=msg5729#msg5729 date=1301499499]
    yeah its good article mate i hope everyone reads it (I still play AQ and K 10 early pos)
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    Those are tough hands to throw away, and you can get really lucky with them sometimes, but in the long run he's probably right.

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