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    10 ways to spot a fish

    1) Calling station

    If you're not sure what you're doing in a game, the easiest thing to do is follow someone else's lead. That's why in poker you'll find a lot of novice/weak players calling every bet regardless of their starting hand.

    It can be horrific watching an opponent calling every bet nonchalantly, before timidly turning over jack-high to your relief. But it's even worse when they call all the way and reveal aces at the showdown - a hand you could never put them on in a million years because they didn't bet or raise at any stage.

    2) Underbetting and overbetting


    An ace has just hit on the river and there's $3,500 in the pot when your opponent looks at his cards again and makes it.... $50 to go. $50? You only have bottom pair but decide to call because it's stupidly cheap. He shows a bluff.

    You're in a $10 Sit & Go online when a player puts in 1,000 chips under the gun with only 10/20 blinds to pick up. Everyone folds and he reveals jacks. Now, it's not the easiest hand to play, but was it worth risking 1,000 chips to steal 30? The only hands he's going to get called by are ones where he's dominated like Q-Q, K-K, A-A. Note down his mistake and make him pay later.

    3) The showoff

    There are people who, when playing poker, just can't help themselves. They show every bluff they make, every pot they rake... in fact, they just keep on showing hands when they simply don't need to. This makes them highly fishy! After all, poker's a game that is based heavily on information. So why give it away for free when you don't need to?

    4) The showdown

    The showdown is the only hard and fast information that you get in a game of poker. What two cards was your opponent playing? And what did his bets mean? You don't even have to be in the hand to pick up vital information like this. Was he drawing to ridiculous pot odds to make his gutshot straight?

    If you can give yourself a mathematical edge against your opponent(s), you'll be a winner against them in the long run.

    5) Chatterbox

    It's true that some decent online players use the online chatbox to create a false impression or put an opponent on tilt. But you can bet the last dollar in your account that anyone typing in 'nh' or 'wp' when someone shows aces is a weak player, no matter how nice their sentiment.

    If there's a lengthy conversation going on, you can be sure the chatters are not focusing on the game properly. In real life you can talk and play cards if you're skilled enough. But online, typing and using the mouse, while keeping an eye on the screen and making tough tactical decisions is a lot harder.

    6) The critic

    Bad players like to make themselves look good by critiquing everyone else, but the fact is that you want to be up against bad players and you don't want these bad players to be aware that they're bad players. Otherwise, they might leave the table - taking their money with them!

    There's a famous saying - 'don't tap on the aquarium' - which translates as 'don't scare the fish'. If someone's tapping away then they either don't know enough to know this maxim (in which case they're a fish), or know it but choose to ignore it (and are thus stupid, which is the same thing).

    7) All-in

    Bad players don't like playing poker after the flop, because it involves far more skill. So watch out for an opponent who insists on pushing all-in every other hand, pre-flop or otherwise, when the blinds are still relatively low. Selective use of the all-in move can be a powerful weapon. Too much of it is suicide.

    8) Position

    Position is paramount in poker but it's quite a tricky concept to grasp when you're starting off. Look out for people who consistently limp in under the gun and then call a raise only to check and fold to any bet on the flop. And look out for people who don't use the button to bet and steal the blinds.

    9) Heads-up


    If you play a bad player heads-up, suddenly their amateur status is magnified. After a few hands you'll soon realise that, perhaps because they're nervous or simply haven't been in this situation before, they hardly ever raise, give you lots of free cards and only bet out when holding premium hands.

    At which point, unless you're holding a monster yourself, you can just fold and wait for a better position. You'll also notice lots of checking and folding pre-flop because they don't lower their starting hand requirements short-handed.

    10) Betting

    When playing online, players are prompted when it's their turn to act, blinds are posted automatically and it's impossible to bet below the minimum or above the maximum (if you're playing in a limit game).

    However, when playing live all these things - and more - are not only possible, but almost inevitable if you're playing with novices. Don't get impatient with your opponent(s) if they keep making elementary mistakes like this. Keep reminding them to put their blinds in; tell them how much the minimum bet or raise is; and remind them to take their coat when they get up to leave hours before you do.

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    Good post here for sure. Lot's of things for all to look at and consider when playing and hunting for fish .. especially online. There are a great many players online that will fall into many of these categories. One of my favorites to discuss is this one:

    "6) The critic

    Bad players like to make themselves look good by critiquing everyone else, but the fact is that you want to be up against bad players and you don't want these bad players to be aware that they're bad players. Otherwise, they might leave the table - taking their money with them!

    There's a famous saying - 'don't tap on the aquarium' - which translates as 'don't scare the fish'. If someone's tapping away then they either don't know enough to know this maxim (in which case they're a fish), or know it but choose to ignore it (and are thus stupid, which is the same thing)."

    I have actually typed to a player that was chattin up a storm on a ring table ... "Hey!... "don't tap on the aquarium". He was constantly telling other players on and on again about how bad their play was and what they should have done. He just kept going on and on... even when he wasn't in a hand.. he would tell em how bad they were... even if he was wrong in what he was saying! Finally, after over an hour of his crap.. I typed in for him to "stfu and quit scaring the fish"! Of course he just kept it up and players would leave the table now and then. I don't know for sure if it was because he may have convinced some of them that they were making bad plays or if they just got disgusted with him and left on that accord. I finally decided to leave the table and seek out most any table without him. He was making plays not much better than the ones he was critiquing... which was one reason I stayed at the table as long as I did. He was pretty fishy himself.. but he wasn't worth putting up with.

    Bottom line is..... a lot of us like to complain about players making bad plays and then hitting a very lucky turn or river and winning that pot. The thing is... those are the players that are paying us off most of the time and, in the long run, will swell our stacks. So.. look seek out those kinds of players... they will pay you off most of the time.. and when they get the occasional lucky hit... hey... it can and will happen, but you will come out way ahead in the long run. Just get your chips in best or at least good... and the fish will feed your stacks... don't scare em away... when your hungriest is when you need them.

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    great read, informative and many should take note off

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    I have a few fish leaks that need fixin,not kidding

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    nice post alot of tips hope it helps me but then again maybe im one on them fish who knows lol

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    Very nice read love it as I had mental images pop in my hear as I was lol
    This one really gives me a problem..8) Position
    Position is paramount in poker but it's quite a tricky concept to grasp when you're starting off. Look out for people who consistently limp in under the gun and then call a raise only to check and fold to any bet on the flop. And look out for people who don't use the button to bet and steal the blinds.
    I have stolen from this position.. and I'm really trying to force myself to play more from here but there just some kind of mental block not being able to play ****ty cards from the lol

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    Great read. it will help me close up a few leaks.

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    i like to look at the avatar, babies and kittens are usually recreational players

    also the use of both upper and lower capitalization or poker terms in the name- makes it "less" fishy

    positional awareness also tends to be a decent indicator ie fishes like to play out of position more

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    poker is like sex you got to take advantage of every position to get your moneys worth i guess thats where gambling come in

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    "Typical play yields Typical Results" -

    Some players have no clue how poorly they play and when results indicate good play one may be under the delusion that ones play was also good - Simple
    Luck-holing is luck-boxing at its best.


    Feeeeeesh likes reverse position best.
    Conceptual position is where the pressure eats the pressure.
    Simple


    If you consistently get your chipz in as a 70% or better then let be what be - no illusions - no self delusional thoughtless thoughts - winning poker at its best - Rinse Repeat.

    simple is what simple does - me thinkz . . .


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